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ABI - Q1 2009 Applied Biosystems
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Event Date/Time: Oct. 22. 2008 / 8:00AM
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CORPORATE
PARTICIPANTS
Peter
Dworkin
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - VP of IR and Corporate Communications
Tony
White
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - CEO
Mark
Stevenson
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - President and COO
Dennis
Winger
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - CFO
Laura
Lauman
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - Division President, Proteomics and Small Molecule
Division
Shaf
Yousaf
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - Division President, MCB Genomic Analysis
Peter
Dansky
Applied
Biosystems Inc. - Division President, MCB Functional Analysis
CONFERENCE CALL
PARTICIPANTS
Matt
Notarianni
Robert
W. Baird & Co. - Analyst
Ross
Muken
Deutsche
Bank - Analyst
Jonathan
Groberg
Merrill
Lynch - Analyst
Tycho
Peterson
JPMorgan
- Analyst
Dan
Leonard
First
Analysis Securities Corp - Analyst
Doug
Schenkel
Cowen
and Company - Analyst
Peter
Lawson
Thomas
Weisel Partners - Analyst
Derik
De Bruin
UBS
- Analyst
PRESENTATION
Good
morning. My name is Candace, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At
this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Applied Biosystems first
quarter fiscal 2009 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute
to prevent any background noise. Following the speakers' presentations, there
will be a Q&A session period.
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I
would now like to introduce Mr. Peter Dworkin, Vice President of Investor
Relations and Corporate Communications for Applied Biosystems. Mr. Dworkin, you
may begin your conference.
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Peter
Dworkin - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - VP of IR and Corporate Communications
Good
morning, everyone. Thanks for joining Applied Biosystems' management to discuss
the first quarter fiscal 2009 financial results that we issued earlier this
morning. Present today are Tony White, Chief Executive Officer; Dennis Winger,
Chief Financial Officer; and Mark Stevenson, President and Chief Operating
Officer. Also with us today are other senior managers, and Investor Relations
Director Bill Craumer.
A
reminder that during this call we will be making forward-looking statements
about Applied Biosystems' business. These statements are subject to the risks
and uncertainties relating to our business that are referred to in the release
issued this morning and in Applied Biosystems' filings with the
SEC.
We
also will be discussing historical and forward-looking non-GAAP financial
measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are not in accordance with an
alternative for GAAP, and may be different from non-GAAP financial measures used
by other companies. A reconciliation of GAAP and non-GAAP financials can be
found in today's press release, and on the financial reports page of the
Investor Relations section of our website at
www.appliedbiosystems.com.
On
July 1, 2008, all of the business, assets, and liabilities of the Celera Group
were separated into an independent, publicly-traded company known as Celera
Corporation, and the Applied Biosystems Group became our only business.
Accordingly, amounts from prior periods have been restated to reflect the Celera
business as discontinued operation.
A
reminder that on June 11th, 2008, Applied Biosystems entered into a definitive
merger agreement with Invitrogen Corporation, pursuant to which Invitrogen will
acquire all of the outstanding shares of Applied Biosystems stock. On Monday
this week, we issued a press release to clarify that the adjournment last week
of a special stockholders' meeting to October 28 does not invalidate proxies or
merger elections that have been voted. We also sought in that press release to
clarify the deadlines for Applied Biosystems stockholders to make their
elections regarding the considerations to be received in the merge, as there has
been some confusion on that point in the broker community, so please see
Monday's release if you have questions about these issues.
Now,
I would like to turn the call over to CEO Tony White.
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
Good
morning, everyone.
This
was another solid quarter for Applied Biosystems We are pleased with the
continuing growth in our consumables product lines, which was up 7% compared to
the prior year. The Asia-Pacific region, excluding Japan, was again our
outstanding performer, with increased revenues of 38% compared to the prior year
quarter. Consumables continue to grow as a percent of total sales. Most
impressive was EPS - GAAP was EPS $0.44, and non-GAAP EPS was $0.48, which is
actually up 55% compared to the prior year.
Regarding
our merger with Invitrogen, I'm pleased to say that based on the votes that are
tabulated to date, stockholders of both companies have demonstrated overwhelming
support for the merger. The teams from both Applied Biosystems and Invitrogen
have been working diligently on the integration activities. Mark Stevenson and
Greg Lucier have championed this process from the beginning. The process has
been quite rigorous. Applied Biosystems and Invitrogen currently expect the
merger to close in mid-November, subject to stockholder approvals expected at
the October 28 special meetings, regulatory clearance from the European Union,
and the satisfaction of the customary closing conditions.
I
expect this to be the last earnings conference call for Applied Biosystems prior
to the completion of the merger. It has been a privilege to lead this company
since 1995, and I want to thank our shareholders as well as our employees,
customers, and, most importantly, my colleagues, for the support that you have
given me over the years. I would like to now turn the call over to Mark
Stevenson to talk about the quarter.
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Thanks,
Tony, and good morning to everyone on the call.
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First,
I would like to reinforce what Tony said about integration. The process is going
smoothly, and we are all truly looking forward to Day One of the new
company.
When
we announced this combination in June, we asserted that until the close, it
would be business as usual. And it has been. We have executed well to close the
last fiscal year, and we've followed it up with a strong first quarter 2009,
albeit with notable weakness in mass spectrometry.
It
has been an extremely productive quarter. Each of our major product areas
introduced at least one significant new product during the quarter.
Unfortunately, some of those announcements came in the midst of one of the
biggest financial market disruptions in history, relegating Applied Biosystems
to page two. My job today is to try to bring them back to page one, and give
some context to some of the quarter's activities and financial
results.
Let
me start with DNA sequencing, up 9% over the prior year quarter. Our CE systems
were up slightly during the quarter, led principally by our HID forensics
installations. Consumables on our CE systems were down, as high-throughput
research customers continued to transition, as we expected, to next generation
sequencing.
SOLiD
Systems sales grew strongly. Earlier this month, we announced the SOLiD 3
System. SOLiD 3 is expected to further extend the industry-leading accuracy and
throughput capabilities of this next-generation sequencing platform, while
providing streamlined workflow. SOLiD 3 is expected to lower the cost of
sequencing an entire human genome to less than $10,000, a level that should
catalyze new research to understand the cause, diagnosis and potential treatment
of complex diseases. In addition, Applied Biosystems' software development
community has begun to accelerate deployment of application-centric software
tools to enable even higher user productivity.
We
also announced two SOLiD optimized kits for the analysis of small RNA
transcriptome-wide expression profiles. We are very excited about these
offerings, because they build off the best-in-class RNA capability acquired in
our 2006 purchase of Ambion. They will also further reduce run times and
simplify workflows for customers. We have also introduced barcoding methods that
will enable the analysis of up to 256 samples in parallel in a single run, with
per-sample costs below, and information content higher than what one would
achieve in array-based gene expression work.
Just
as encouraging, we're seeing an increasing number of scientific publications
based on research conducted on the SOLiD system, underscoring the accuracy and
cost savings achievable with our technology platform. One such example appeared
in the September issue of Genome Research. The investigators sequenced a yeast
genome on AB's SOLiD system, and on a competitive short-read system. It was
determined that the researcher would have to sequence the sample 19 times on the
competitive platform to achieve the same accuracy and coverage achievable with
just 10 times on the SOLiD platform.
A
quick comment about CE technology, which continues to be the gold standard in
applications such as molecular testing and forensics. On September 27th, both
chambers of the Congress sent the Debbie Smith DNA Reauthorization Act to the
President, which he signed last week. It authorizes continued funding of up to
$151 million between the government fiscal year 2010 and fiscal 2014 for
forensic DNA backlog reduction.
We
report our Human Identity kits in Real-Time and Applied Genomics category, so
this is a good time to transition into this category.
At
38% of revenue and a 13% year-over-year growth rate compared to our strong comp
in the prior year quarter, this category is the largest part of our portfolio.
In this category of PCR-based research consumables, such as our TaqMan assays,
our Ambion products, our consumable kits for DNA forensics, as well as our
PCR-based sequence detection systems. Instruments and consumables both delivered
strong growth in the first quarter, and instruments enjoyed revenue as well as
unit sales growth. At the end of September, we received a 510(k) clearance from
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for our new 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR
instrument. This instrument was cleared concurrently with the new CDC Real-Time
PCR Flu Panel. The test delivers answers within four hours, aiding public health
officials in making rapid and accurate diagnosis. This is an important milestone
for Applied Biosystems in our journey to support our customers in validated and
regulated markets.
Our
Ambion product line once again showed double-digit growth in the first quarter,
driven by Silencer Select siRNAs, sample prep products, and animal health
solutions, which enable the detection of common pathogens in
livestock.
Yesterday,
we announced the introduction of our TaqMan Open Array genotyping system,
developed out of our collaboration with BioTrove. The new system is designed to
enable us to compete in the new segments of the high-throughput genotyping
market. Customers will be able to leverage the speed and accuracy of TaqMan
technology for screening and validation applications in fast-growing markets
such as disease-association studies and understanding drug treatment response as
a function of individual genotyping in clinical studies.
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Last
year's first quarter results included some real-time PCR licensing revenue,
whereas in Q1 2009 a similar level of nonrecurring royalty revenue was recorded
in our core PCR category. Because of the similar level of these royalties, there
was little impact on the gross margin year-on-year. However, the revenue impact
of the royalties booked in Q1 2009 on our core PCR category, which was up 17%
compared to the prior year quarter, was significant.
Our
mass spectrometry business was, quite frankly, challenged in the first quarter,
and product revenue in this category declined nearly 10% compared to the prior
year quarter. The slowdown was primarily attributable to three factors:
contraction of capital spending for mass spectrometry in our core small-molecule
pharma market, which is part of a function of more outsourcing to CROs; purchase
delays ahead of our new product introduction; and competitive pressures. We
believe we are sustaining share in the mass spec pharma market, but the
tightening in the market had a significant impact. Mass spec sales were down in
every major geographic region, with the exception of Asia-Pac outside of Japan.
Applied markets and proteomic sales were relatively flat.
On
a more positive note, and something many of you have been anticipating, we
launched in early October two new mass spec systems based on a very powerful
next-generation platform that enables workflow solutions we believe will be
unmatched in terms of sensitivity, scan speed and functionality. The new
platform, which we have branded AB SCIEX, incorporates a host of innovations in
a footprint that is 44% smaller than its predecessor.
The
first two systems built on the new platform are the Triple Quad 5500 the QTRAP
5500. The QTRAP 5500 offers the pharmaceutical industry groundbreaking and
much-needed capabilities in application areas such as drug metabolite
identification. We are also targeting the protein quantitation market,
particularly in the area of multiplex biomarker protein verification and
validation. The Triple Quad 1500 is expected to become a mainstay in the food
and water analysis, due to its ability to identify and confirm more than 1,000
different chemicals in a single test, a level that is unmatched in the
industry.
When
Applied Biosystems says "launch", we really mean launch. We have trained our
salespeople and support personnel around the world, we have inventory, we have
orders, and we have shipped to our first customers.
Let
me close by again thanking all AB employees for working with remarkable
diligence, and delivering solid performance this quarter, the last quarter we
expect to report prior to the close of the merger. We are looking forward to
joining with Invitrogen and executing on the promise of the new
company.
With
that, let me turn it over to Dennis Winger.
Dennis
Winger - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CFO
Thank
you, Mark.
As
mentioned, our first quarter results were highlighted by solid revenue growth
and continued strong EPS growth on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis compared to
the prior year quarter. Gross margin for the first quarter of fiscal 2009 was
60.5% compared to 55.8% in the prior year. Gross margin benefited from lower
enzymes cost and favorable product mix, along with a payment from the Department
of Defense related to a terminated Air Force contract. We also enjoyed favorable
currency effects of roughly 0.4%.
During
the first quarter SG&A increased to $160.3 million or 30.1% of revenue, from
$149.4 million or 29.8% of revenue in the prior year quarter. The increase was
due mostly to the unfavorable impact of currency and employee-related
costs.
R&D
expenditures decreased to $49.3 million or 9.2% of revenue in the first quarter,
compared to $50.6 million or 10.1% of revenue in the prior year quarter. First
quarter 2009 EPS from continued operations on a non-GAAP basis were $0.48, an
increase of approximately 55% compared to $0.31 on a restated basis in the prior
year period. Excluding the foreign currency, non-GAAP earnings, EPS increased
approximately 48% over the prior year quarter. The reconciliation of GAAP and
non-GAAP financials can be found in today's press release, as well as on the
Financial Reports page of our Investor Relations of our website,
www.appliedbiosystems.com.
Cash
flow from continuing operations during the first quarter was $73.8 million, and
capital expenditures were $15.3 million. At the end of the first quarter trade
accounts receivable were $384.2 million, representing 57 days outstanding; and
inventory was $175.8 million, representing 4.5 months on hand of
inventory.
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I
should mention here that despite a very conservative approach to investing our
excess cash, during the quarter we recorded a $2.9 million loss related to our
investment in the reserve primary fund, the money-market fund in the U.S. that
is currently in liquidation as the result of having unsecured commercial paper
from Lehman Brothers in its portfolio. The remaining balance of our investment
in this fund, totaling $97 million, has been reclassified from cash and
short-term investments to other receivables, to reflect the illiquid nature of
this investment. We have similarly reclassified to other receivables $16 million
that was invested with a Dutch branch of Landsbanki, an Icelandic bank that has
been nationalized and has suspended repaying creditors. We may need to recognize
additional losses in a future quarter once all of the issues of these
investments have been resolved.
At
the end of the quarter, cash and short-term investments were $368 million, down
from $543.2 million as of June 30th, 2008. This decrease was largely the result
of the reclassification of the two illiquid investments and loan repayments
associated with the accelerated share repurchase program completed in fiscal
2008.
Finally,
and explained in the press release, in view of the pending merger with
Invitrogen, we are not updating the outlook for fiscal 2009 that we provided in
July at the start of our fiscal year.
We
will now be happy to take your questions.
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Our
first question will come from the line of Quintin Lai of Robert W. Baird. Please
proceed.
Matt
Notarianni - Robert W. Baird
& Co. - Analyst
Good
morning. This is actually Matt for Quintin. Congratulations on a solid quarter
here. First question, I guess maybe for Mark, thank you for the color on the CE
consumable trend. Just with respect to that, and as the transition happens, the
next-gen sequencing, are you starting to see a leveling out here, or - I mean,
how much further switching to the next-gen do you guys really anticipate near
term?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
In
the near term, Matt, we continue to expect a decline in the CE business. We have
anticipated that that will be in the low single digits, and that is the kind of
decline we're seeing. What is going on is the high (inaudible) book customers,
and particularly the applications for de novo sequencing that has been going on
for some couple of years now, certainly switching to next-generation
technologies, and more comparative sequencing going on using techniques like
SOLiD to follow up on the initial studies. That's certainly the switch we
anticipate. Clearly at some point in the future, and we are not predicting that
at the moment, that we install more medium and low-throughput in applications
such as the forensic and some of the clinical, we still have growth in that
segment. But in the foreseeable future at the moment, we continue to expect a
decline offset by the growth tremendously in the next-gen from
SOLid.
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Participant
Thank
you for that color. Then just - my second question is really on the new 5500
mass specs. Are there - any color on the initial customer reaction that you have
seen with these early shipments here? Thank you.
Laura
Lauman - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - Division President, Proteomics and Small Molecule
Division
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this is Laura Lauman, Matt, and I would be glad to answer that. Yes, we have
seen very positive response from our customer base, both for the 5500 QTRAP and
the Triple Quad. As you know, it's sold into a host of application areas,
including protein quant, metabolite ID work, as well as pesticide for food and
environmental testing. We have had a very strong response there from our
customer base. Naturally, they will need time to demo the instrument and
understand how their samples work on their instrument, but the initial response
has been very positive.
Thank
you again.
Our
next question will come from the line of Ross Muken of Deutsche Bank. Please
proceed.
Ross
Muken - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
Good
morning, gentlemen In terms of the mass spec side of the business, you know, the
weakness has been persistent for some time. If you sort of had to couch it in
terms of market versus product delays - well, delays relevant to new product
introductions, relative to competition in terms of percentage impact, how would
you do so? And then in terms of your comments around the CRO customer base,
there was obviously a large deal recently with Lilly and Covance that got a bit
of press. As we see things similar to that and see more of the [ambi] tox
testing kind of outsourced, how should we think about that customer base from a
purchasing standpoint relative to the pharma customer, which has traditionally
been at the end-market base there for a lot of product?
Laura
Lauman - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - Division President, Proteomics and Small Molecule
Division
I
will take that question as well. It's Laura Lauman. Yes, we did have a
challenging quarter this quarter, clearly. I think it's reflected certainly in
the pharmaceutical business as a whole, which has been contracting particularly
in the PK area, and outsourcing to CROs globally. We have seen a lot of
outsourcing particularly in to China/Asia region, which is really the reason for
fairly substantial growth for us there, but that has been offset by what is
happening in the U.S. and the Western European markets.
I
think also, and it has been pretty well discussed, customers knew that we were
introducing new products. We actually under CBA talked to about 30 different
customers in advance of the launch, just letting them know it was coming. So I
think also there has been a slowdown or a stalling in the market as a result of
that, which is natural given two new product introductions. So I really see it -
the majority of this is as the combination of those two factors.
In
terms of CR0s, we continue to be strong in that market as we are in the PK
market, that's been always a very solid base for us, and we continue to sell
into both those categories even in this kind of difficult pharmaceutical
contraction. I hope that helps.
Ross
Muken - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
That
was great, Laura, thanks. And Mark, relative to sort of your comments around the
legacy CE business, specifically on the consumables side, competitors have been
making more noise at recent industry conferences regarding advancements relative
to [read lengths], and kind of cost improvements, specifically on the 454 side.
What do you think would need to happen in terms of any of the competitive
instruments to potentially accelerate the kind of displacement cycle in the
smaller laboratories of the 37-30 base, or do you just think that at least for
the time being there is kind of a core utilization, that there are scientific
limitations of some of those competitive technologies that they might not be
able to get there, at least in the mind of a scientist?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
We
continue to seek the change in the market, and really it is not so much - you
know, you come specifically to the read length, but you get certain projects in
the research quarter, in fact 37-30 business was actually stronger than we
expected this quarter, where people continue to see
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demand
for applications where they may have a sample they want to run, and a just get
small amount of sequence, it's just very easy and simple to set up. So you've
got to do that in a small core lab. So it is not really the large de novo
sequencing genome projects that are going on, it is much more a question of
ease-of-use, simplicity, robustness of the technique that is well proven. That
goes on in small labs around the world, and we continue to see demand for that.
We have also participated in - whether it's been access demand offering to
users, used and pre-owned instruments, and we see good demand for that as well.
It is really not as much a technology question, it's different experiments that
they want to do where ease-of-use is important to them.
Ross
Muken - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
So
I guess is that the key point of differentiation, where you think that CE, just
because it has been around for so long and people are so comfortable with it,
that that is kind of the key differentiator versus some of these newer
technologies which might have different bells and whistles? They don't offer
anything that kind of either moves the needle enough to sort of get people away
from what they have been doing for 10 years? Is that kind of what you are trying
to say? I just want to make sure
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
I'll
let Shaf Yousaf just add a bit more color, if you want to dig a bit deeper.
Shaf?
Shaf
Yousaf - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - Division President, MCB Genomic Analysis
I
think when you contrast the two different technologies, next-gen sequencing is
really addressing a different question in biology. It is set up to do a run
which is substantially more complicated, and therefore to do a large experiment,
to generate a large amount of data. Those are different kind of genome scale
questions being asked. Gene sequencing is the gold standard for small projects
and for accurate, long read length kind of approaches, and remains - we expect
that to remain (inaudible). So as we look forward, we normally segment the
customer base by categories, and again we have said very clearly that in the
genome centers we are seeing the strongest transition. And the other categories,
in the core labs and so on, there still seems to be ongoing demand for the use
of CE for the projects that they are seeing.
Ross
Muken - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
Great.
Thank you, Shaf. That is all for me.
Our
next question will come from the line of Jonathan Groberg of Merrill Lynch.
Please proceed.
Jonathan
Groberg - Merrill Lynch -
Analyst
Thanks
for taking the call. Congratulations on a good quarter. I just had a couple of
clarifying questions, I guess. One, can you maybe Mark talk about - people
outside of your company keep talking about the fact that you guys are giving
away instruments, there continues to be that kind of noise and rumor, can you
maybe just talk about where you are in terms of revenue recognition? I was
trying to run some numbers back of the envelope here in terms of instrument
growth, but maybe where you are in terms of revenue recognition for the SOLiD,
and kind of how orders - I know you have a lot of orders, you mentioned last
quarter, and how those have held up going into this quarter as
well?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
I
think you can see, Jonathan, as we report out revenue growth at 9%, we are
talking about CE declining, but we are recognizing revenues from instruments and
we are placing - that revenue growth is in that growth, we had, as I commented,
tremendous placements of SOLiD that exceeded our expectations for this first
quarter. We continue to recognize the revenue. So it is not a matter of - I hear
questions of people saying that we are giving the instruments away. That is not
how you recognize revenue, so that is not what is going on.
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we certainly do is make sure before the customer recognizes the revenue, they
place an order with us, we have acceptance criteria, we place them on site, we
install them, we support them, the training classes are going tremendously well.
We're actually just training up our services engineers for the upgrades as well.
We have 70 service engineers, field service engineers, in addition to our FAS
field application support supporting our customers, which are more than 40
people in the field taking out and supporting the upgrades. That will go through
and we will recognize revenue on the upgrades as well. So that is the process we
are going through, and we are very pleased with the acceptance criteria as
customers go through that process.
Jonathan
Groberg - Merrill Lynch -
Analyst
Is
there just - to clarify a little bit more, one - maybe some qualitative
commentary around order growth from last quarter into this quarter, and then
two, I think you mentioned in the past some goals as to where you would like to
move revenue recognition towards, in terms of matters of months or weeks, and
maybe kind of just where you are at there?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Certainly
when we first put the version out, if you think back just over a year ago, we
put the first system out, we launched the SOLiD, we have made tremendous
progress in the system. We were - it took about 90 days to go through process,
we are down to 60 days, and we are working our way down. We are getting new
procedures on how we install and test the instruments. In manufacturing, we have
increased our throughputs in manufacturing, and that has been successful for
us.
The
order flow is being good. I get questions about the funding for next-generation
sequencing, the funding is good, customers make available money for that, and so
we're seeing good demand in both of the key application areas, both for the
sequencing applications, disease-focused, and increasingly these gene expression
applications.
Jonathan
Groberg - Merrill Lynch -
Analyst
I
think in the past, you gave actually a number in terms of order wins that you
thought you were getting. Have you seen any change in that over the last few
months - a couple, three months or so?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
There's
no significant change. We're not going to - that was a milestone metric we
updated at the end of our fiscal year. We going to continue to report this as a
revenue category, but we are still in line with that rate again.
Jonathan
Groberg - Merrill Lynch -
Analyst
Okay.
On the consumables side, can you maybe -- I know you don't want to give specific
numbers but maybe just help quantify a little bit more if you would have
excluded the CE consumables, what you're consumable growth would have
been?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Jonathan,
we are not going to break out each part. For us it is a category of a business
that we give a lot of color to that. We expect the consumables, as the
placements go further and further increased to increase, we are certainly - one
of our focus areas is on the software tools, because we help people get up and
running, and as they get through this tremendous amount of data, obviously we
have to use that data and improve the ease-of-use of that focus, and then the
consumable pull-through will happen as part of that. So that is how you can
think about modeling that. Over time, that ratio of instrument consumables will
certainly change.
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question on gross margins, Dennis I think you mentioned a couple things, but
maybe could you provide a little more detail in terms of the expansion and how
much of it was due to the new enzymology? Some of it might have been product
mix, because mass spec was down. You mentioned FX up by I think 0.4 percentage
points, and you got a payment from the Department of Defense. Could you maybe
break out a little bit more how the very strong gross margin, just kind of what
were the relative contributors?
Dennis
Winger - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CFO
I
don't know if we can give more detail than we already have. Obviously, currency
was not a very big impact. Mass Spec was lower - as you know, margin on Mass
Spec is lower than our other product lines, we share the product with our
partner in Canada. So the fact that it was a local portion of our sales did have
a positive impact on gross margin, enough to probably quantify that. And of
course we did have the payment from the Department of Defense. So those are the
key factors, along with the enzyme.
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
I
would just maybe add the thing we're positive about that is recurring is the
enzymes are part of a greater effort to reduce the cost of sales in our
products. You know, we continue to have black belt lean efforts going on,
reducing the cost of our products, and we're also - as we introduce new - more
consumable products with our new enzymes then, you know we think all of that is
sustainable, and part of the gross margin. So we are pleased about the efforts
we have made in that, and that's a sustainable part. You know, we called out the
items that Dennis mentioned.
Jonathan
Groberg - Merrill Lynch -
Analyst
Thanks
a million.
Our
next question will come from the line of Tycho Peterson of JPMorgan. Please
proceed.
Tycho
Peterson - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Good
morning. Mark, I am just wondering if you can give a little bit more clarity on,
first, SOLiD. I think internationally have you talked placements in Russia and
Brazil, and some of these markets. Can you just talk a little qualitatively
about how the international market for SOLiD is playing out?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
We
continue to see increasing demand outside of the U.S., and really we've given
that color because we often get questions, well is it just in the genome
centers? The answer is no, we see it in countries increasingly outside the U.S.,
both in Western Europe, Japan, we see funding - funding was weak in Japan this
quarter. We are optimistic of funding flowing through for areas like
next-generation sequencing. You know, we mentioned our success we had at the
Singapore Genome Institute scaled up more in SOLiD. So it is an increasing
portion of our business. The U.S. is still the major focus for us in terms of
orders at this time, but as we leverage the scale of AB's operation outside of
the U.S., we expect again to do very well in our win rate outside the
U.S.
Tycho
Peterson - JPMorgan -
Analyst
With
regards to the 3.0, how should we think about maybe the market upgrade
potential? Maybe just in terms of percentage of the installed base you expect to
upgrade over the coming year?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
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will expect the majority of our upgrade - probably 100% will want to upgrade the
system. When we started with these customers, we said to them they were on a
journey as we have been on a journey, through investing in SOLiD, so we would
want to see all our customers upgrade. We set the price of the upgrade at
$20,000, which allows our customers to very much be affordable to this upgrade,
and go with the generations. As we look at version 3.0, as we look beyond
version 3.0, you will see our customers continue to upgrade the system, it's a
very scalable technology, and so we expect 100% will upgrade.
Tycho
Peterson - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay.
And then with regards to the Invitrogen acquisition yesterday of Visigen, is
there any kind of color you can provide? You guys had obviously had an equity
investment in there before you did the the Agincourt deal.
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
It
is really for Invitrogen to comment on the details, I think. Greg gave a couple
of comments yesterday around their bit with their program around IP and
Enzymology. Really as we look forward to the new company, clearly one of the
growth areas for us will be next-generation sequencing, and we expect to be a
leader in genetic analysis across all the technologies, which will be both
CE-based technology, which will be SOLiD technology, and which will be
single-molecule sequencing systems, and we expect that will be an opportunity
for the new company going forward.
Tycho
Peterson - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay.
In the release, you talked a little bit about the FDA purchase of the 4,000
QTRAPS for food testing. Can you give us a sense as to where we are in the
regulatory landscape? You've talked in the past about this dynamic between FDA
doing more food testing versus DOA. How do we think about the opportunity
there?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
The
question is, who is regulating food testing? Certainly you see with the FDA, in
the case of the mass spec order, certainly concerned about pesticides which
impact human health. Before we have seen the USDA regulating, and sort of tends
to be more concerned about - on the food side than the human health side. But we
are certainly seeing both active. What AB's, certainly, view is we want to
continue to work with both of our customers and the regulators, be it the FDA,
the USDA, some of the other authorities around the world. As we move into these
more validated markets, we are upgrading our in-house quality systems. Our
system has a reputation for robust and reproducible systems, so we see good
opportunities as we move into these more validated markets, and that is
certainly a focus for us.
Tycho
Peterson - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay.
And then just one last one on the Flu Panel. Are you shipping that now, and can
you talk maybe about how we think about seasonality there over the next couple
of months?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
The
seasonality really depends on the outbreak of the flu. It is certainly a panel
that actually the CDC have developed and ship onto our systems into the CDC
health labs. We started shipping instruments with the 7500s, both in the U.S.
but also internationally to countries like Africa who have partnerships with the
CDC, and where the CDC do early outbreaks of monitoring. So you will that coming
forward.
As
well, we will be upgrading our systems in the field through our service network,
and offering service contract and validation to upgrade the systems to the 7500
fast version, which is then the version we have the - our first 510(k) approval
on. So you can expect that to continue to go forward as we go forward. Clearly
we are not hoping or wishing for an outbreak of Avian Influenza, bit there will
be a level of surveillance going on.
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Tycho
Peterson - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Our
next question will come from the line of Dan Leonard with First Analysis. Please
proceed.
Dan
Leonard - First Analysis
Securities Corp - Analyst
Thanks
for taking my call. A question for Dennis. Dennis, I could still use a bit more
help on understanding your gross margin performance in the quarter. I thought
that lower enzyme costs was a benefit that had anniversaried, because it is
something you have been talking about for many quarters now? Is that just not
the case? Is it something that will you continue to provide year-over-year
benefits on a go-forward basis?
Dennis
Winger - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CFO
As
Mark referenced earlier, we continue to make progress in lowering our
manufacturing costs. That is an ongoing benefit which continues to exist. Do you
want to comment on that, Mark?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Yes,
I would also say we are also clear that we didn't source from one enzyme
supplier, so as well as one that has anniversaried, there was a second one that
is coming online. And we also have the impact of switching to our own enzymes.
So we certainly anniversaried the first switch, there was a second one and a
third, and again as Dennis highlighted, there are multiple programs that
continue to drive costs down of some of these programs, as we look at all our
suppliers, as we look at all the components we manufacture, so that is where the
benefit came.
Dan
Leonard - First Analysis
Securities Corp - Analyst
Okay.
And then, Mark, you provided some color on the growth in the core PCR business.
Why did the other products category grow as much as it did in the first
quarter?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
We
have a mixture of other product lines in that other category. One is the
separation product, the [core SB] that we supply to the biopharmaceutical
industry. That business can tend to be a little lumpy sometimes. It is a
continued grower though from year to year. So within that bioproduction area, we
had a strong quarter with business pharma customers both here in the U.S. and in
Europe.
Dan
Leonard - First Analysis
Securities Corp - Analyst
Okay.
Then my final question for Laura, Laura I am trying to think about how to tease
apart one of those factors you talked about of the mass spec weakness, which was
that customers were holding off orders ahead of the new product launch. When I
go back to 2005, you introduced the API 5000 in January, but the quarter
previously, you grew that business 10%. So how do you try to tease out that
headwind, given that at least in some historical examples it doesn't appear to
have been a meaningful headwind?
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
Let
me help out Laura a little bit, she is kind of checking through her issues here.
This is one where we didn't introduce this new product at a major event, like an
ASMS meeting or something like this. This was sort of an off-cycle introduction.
So there was a certain amount of time between those events, and when we actually
did launch the product, people were expecting us to do something, knew that it
was coming. I think
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just had one of those effects on the market, where people were really starting
to question, when is this going to happen? It is late. So it is a little
different from the normal cycle we do on these things. First of all, we are not
going to attribute the slowdown this quarter entirely to that. There are issues
in the marketplace as well. But my sense in just kind of watching this thing was
that this was like a slow-motion crash between not being ready to introduce the
product at ASMS and when we actually did it in October.
Laura
Lauman - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - Division President, Proteomics and Small Molecule
Division
I
think that is fair, just to add on to Tony's comment, for the APXI sales and
when we introduce that, and you're right, we did do it in January. We did not
say prior to that that we were coming out with a new product. We had talked
about it several times, certainly alluding to it. I think the buzz in the
industry was clearly there.
Having
said that, and I think I mentioned it earlier, the pharma business is under
considerable pressure right now. I think that has been well-noted in the press.
So that, given that is a fair portion of the business, also had an
impact.
Dan
Leonard - First Analysis
Securities Corp - Analyst
Okay.
That's helpful. Thank you both.
Next
question will come from the line of Doug Schenkel of Cowen and Company. Please
proceed.
Doug
Schenkel - Cowen and Company -
Analyst
Good
morning. First question is on mass spec, I recognize that you are not updating
guidance across the company, given where you are relative to the closing of the
Invitrogen deal, but considering the weak mass spec performance in the quarter,
and given that you just launched a couple new products, and we are all painfully
aware of the current capital environment, would you be at least willing to
provide some guidance specific to mass spec as we look forward over the balance
of the fiscal year?
Laura
Lauman - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - Division President, Proteomics and Small Molecule
Division
Doug,
I wouldn't be open to providing forward-looking statements on what the mass spec
business will do but I will say that, as I mentioned earlier, the customer
response to the new product has been very positive. It really allows the
customer now to identify very low levels of metabolites or pesticides or
peptides, whatever the application is, and both quantify as well as identify
what those analytes are. That is new in the industry, to have this level of
sensitivity and be able to do both in one system. So I must say that the
feedback has been very strong. We are - we do have units globally in our demo
labs. We are currently demoing, we are fully booked for demos, so I think you
know the response, as I mentioned, has been positive, and we will see how it
goes in the upcoming quarters.
Doug
Schenkel - Cowen and Company -
Analyst
Okay,
understood. Mark, a follow-up on I think it was John's question from earlier
about solid discounting. To be clear here, I don't think anyone believes you're
not recording any revenue on SOLiDs across the board. I think what we in the
investment community are trying to understand is how broadly you are discounting
and how aggressively are you discounting? So we know you are recording revenues
on SOLiDs; we are trying to get at some of these finer points. Can you help us
understand that a little bit better?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
I
can help you understand, I think, the sales process. Clearly, if someone places
an order for multiple units, we will help with those project costs. I think what
typically is happening that people get more concerned about is we will get
requests to run samples or demonstrations, and what we find the most effective
way is, is customers seeing the instrument come into their lab get up and going
off to place the purchase order with us. So
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is more, I think, that dynamic. There are a lot of comments in the marketplace
about exactly what is happening, we see great traction from customers getting
in. What we are very good at doing is making our customers successful through
the field applications, the support network we have and service network. We
certainly see that we are going to be competitive as place the instruments in
the market. That is where we are.
You
should know very clearly, it is not about us trying to win on price, as I quoted
the example of Genome Research, we think what we win on is the throughput and
accuracy, and that translates into a cost of sequencing a project, both on the
throughput, how many gigabases you get in your run, and the accuracy translates
into how many runs - how many times you need to run that sample. So the example
I quoted from Genome Research, and there other examples coming. That translates
into the cost of a run, which when most of these customers do the math, it is
not the upfront capital, it's what is going to be the cost of doing these
large-scale projects that is going to translate into a difference
here.
Doug
Schenkel - Cowen and Company -
Analyst
Okay.
Last quarter, you said that you received orders for - I think you said it was at
least 100 SOLiDs. It would be great if you would be willing to update that here,
which I am guessing is probably not going to be the case. If that is indeed how
you want to approach this question, could you tell us when we should we expect
another update?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Yes.
We are not going to update on the numbers. We passed the milestone and we
updated on that milestone. We are really focused on giving you a lot of color
around the category. We report out the category, but it is very a competitive
market, so we would rather not give more color than we need to. You can just be
- rest assured, we are absolutely committed to winning in this marketplace. You
will see us increasing placing orders around that we will announce, and you will
see comments out from customers and the successes they are getting with these
systems and products. So I think those are the kind of metrics you should see as
we continue to get traction in this marketplace.
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
I
would just encourage you guys to look at our total category. We do tell what we
do in DNA sequencing. I think that is a better indicator of our approach to this
business than the competitors. Doing a body count between us and Illumina on who
got how many placements this month ignores the fact that we have another very
large, very profitable CE business that they don't have. So we manage our
business as a total DNA sequencing business, and that is the way you should
measure it.
Doug
Schenkel - Cowen and Company -
Analyst
Okay.
That is a fair point, Tony. If we maybe take that a step further then. Any
chance you would be willing to help us at least understand then what percentage
of the CE revenue in the quarter was traditional versus applied market
applications?
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
The
CE breakdown between traditional or applied, we don't count back into that
anyway but the short answer is probably no, but I'm trying to think through what
that means.
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
We
give out the categories. What we have said in the past, we kind of stopped
counting, we used to give the metric that the genome centers was less than 10%
of our business, it is so much less it is not a meaningful statistic. What we
are quoting you more is just the continued expansion of markets around the
world. We give forensic as an example, but there many other applied and
commercial examples. One is the pharmaceutical industry that is buying in the QC
are, the [Microseek] system, which is sequencing-based
identification.
That
is also expanding its applications; we are seeing outside of pharma there are a
lot of applications for microbial identification. You see into these
translational clinical environments, and that segment is growing. So
increasingly it is becoming, I we have said, sort of in excess of 50% or
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55%
of our business is outside what you might consider the core research or smaller,
coarser labs in the research segment, and that is just because it is the gold
standard. Very easy to work, very easy to use. It is validated. We are
continuing to invest in R&D also in CE, as we see more applications that
will run in those kind of platforms in the future.
Doug
Schenkel - Cowen and Company -
Analyst
Thank
you for that. One last question. Any chance you could just provide a little bit
more color as to what is happening in Japan?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Japan
is always a fairly opaque society to provide color in. Certainly our view, what
we saw this last quarter was a little surprising to us. But we certainly saw
some grants that we were expecting to come into Q1, delay into the our current
quarter, the second quarter ending December. We have been pleased with some of
the traction we have had as we realigned our Japan organization more around
consumables. We went direct selling Ambion, so that has made traction. Of course
we have seen what we saw last year, which is some of the Japanese pharma have
been moving their business out of Japan into the CRAs in China, or just be
generally weak. So those are some of the trends that we have seen. We don't
expect the performance of what we saw this quarter to be typical for us as we
look forward in the business in Japan, and we expect growth.
Doug
Schenkel - Cowen and Company -
Analyst
Thank
you very much.
Our
next question will come from the line of Peter Lawson of Thomas Weisel Partners.
Please proceed.
Peter
Lawson - Thomas Weisel
Partners - Analyst
Mark,
beyond flu, what else is in the diagnostic pipeline?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
Peter,
I am not going to launch all the diagnostic kits today, but what we saw a
milestone on a journey here. The journey started, clearly, as we separated out
from Celera. It then continued with getting our Singapore factory up to ISO
13485, which allows us to meet standards with the IVD. What it also allows us to
do, and in the case of the CDC, was partner with content from our customers. So
the CDC had a panel of assays that they wanted partnering with, and we also
worked very closely with the FDA, it was a joint project between the three
organizations.
So
you will see more of us continuing to get systems that operate, more partnering
with content providers, and targeting areas that we think there is real value to
enabling our customers to take what we all believe is the promise of molecular
medicine into these areas. That is what you are going to expect to see. We
currently get a substantial portion of our business in this clinical research
environment, which is kits and components that we sell into the core labs that
use it in that framework, and we will continue to upgrade our quality systems to
support those customers.
Peter
Lawson - Thomas Weisel
Partners - Analyst
Switching
on to Real-Time PCR, the growth there, how sustainable is that? What is going to
affect - how is the competition going to affect that over the next two or three
years?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
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The
growth is very sustainable. What we have been trying to indicate to people is it
is much more than a Real-Time instrument or category, but is a broad portfolio
of applications that is driving that growth. So as we look forward to continuing
to introduce, and you have seen some of the applications from micro RNAs to new
sample prep, and yesterday you saw from Peter Dansky and his team Open Array in
collaboration with BioTrove, those are some of the drivers as we enter into
cost-growing applications in new market areas. So as we continue that, growth
will be considerable in that category.
Peter
Lawson - Thomas Weisel
Partners - Analyst
Finally
on Japan, how quickly can you turn around that weakness?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
It
is really a question of the funding coming through in Japan. So we don't expect
that - we believe we are well positioned from our organization, but we don't
expect funding to dramatically change. It was a slightly seasonal issue this
last quarter relative to what we would expect this current quarter.
Peter
Lawson - Thomas Weisel
Partners - Analyst
Thank
you so much.
Our
final question will come from the line of Derik De Bruin of UBS. Please
proceed.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
Good
morning.
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
I
wondered where you were.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
Yes,
I am here. You're not done with me yet, Tony. So it sounds like - we haven't
touched on some of the market stuff, so let me do that. Some of your competitors
have mentioned that the potential of the year-end budget flush at the pharma
companies may not be as healthy as it was in prior years. Do you have any
opinions on that?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
I
don't think we are expecting that the pharma, based on what they have said
today, and days that we have seen, I know there was the Merck announcement this
morning, you know, are suddenly going to become flush at their calendar end. So
I think with regard to pharma, we are not expecting that change. We do expect as
we go into the new calendar year, which is end of our fiscal year, certainly for
mass spectrometry, as we both had time to then evaluate the new platforms, they
will see the upgrade potential for the second half of the year, they would see
good adoption in that segment. So that is certainly what we expect with regard
to mass spec funding, which in pharma end market, which specifically impacts the
mass spec.
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
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would add to that. My experience in watching this cycle over the last 13 years
is that even in a down market for pharma, if you have a new product introduction
that has compelling advantages in terms of their cost and quality in getting the
clinical work done, they will find the money. Because it is a cost analysis on
the total project, and sometimes the cost of the upgrade is justified even in a
tight capital market. I don't know that that is going to be the case here. I
hope it is. It is too soon to tell, but certainly there are indicators from our
experience that that is something that we are going to watch for, and could very
well happen, because there are some compelling advantages to this technology
that may make the pharma companies believe that they have to upgrade to be
competitive.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
Okay.
I will turn that question now to the academic labs. Are you feeling about people
being concerned about, considering we have the election coming up, budgets being
pushed out and university endowments potentially being under pressure? What is
your feel from the academic front?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
The
academic has continued just the same. We have seen no change in the academic,
and where there is hot research, where there is good researches, they are
getting funding, so we continue to see that, which then we feel bodes well for
next-generation sequencing. You know, I was in an academic lab last week in
Florida, and we were discussed the Open Array, and great studies that are going
to take into genetic analysis, and again in the mass spec areas we look at
protein biomarker validation, you know that is an are of tremendous study at the
moment. So all of that seems good, and no change.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
Switching
to the BioTrove products, can you just elaborate on what you see is the market
there, and how you intend to roll that out?
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
I
will let Peter Dansky take that for you.
Peter
Dansky - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - Division President, MCB Functional Analysis
Thanks.
We were really excited about the launch. I think as we have talked a little bit
in the past, this allows us to get into some studies and types of opportunities
where we couldn't participate before, particularly validation studies and
screening studies where the numbers of snip markers are are fairly high, meaning
tens to hundreds, but the sample throughput is just phenomenally large,
sometimes in the thousands or tens of thousands. Mark mentioned some of the
studies in the script. One particular area that we see a lot of opportunities is
in the agricultural sector, in crop selection and breeding, because the sample
volume is so high. So we see it as a new market segment, and the technology will
enable new studies which really can't be done today.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
Okay.
And the financial question. ABI has - effectively has had hedges and (inaudible)
exposure. How do the recent mood swings in the dollar potentially impact you,
Dennis? Can you give us any color on how you see the currency as playing
out?
Dennis
Winger - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CFO
The
dollar has strengthened versus where we were when we release year-end earnings,
there's no doubt about it, against a number of major currencies. That has a
negative impact on us on the revenue line and on the profit line, so we are
getting less of a benefit from currency this year than we did last
year.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
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Okay.
I just want to say thanks for the memories guys, Tony, Dennis and Peter, it has
been an interesting eight years, and it has been a pleasure working with you.
Thanks.
Mark
Stevenson - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - President and COO
We've
enjoyed associating with you, Derik.
Tony
White - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - CEO
Same
here, Derik. You have been very fair, and you have been rigorous in your work
and I really admire that. Good job.
Derik
De Bruin - UBS -
Analyst
Thanks.
Ladies
and gentlemen, this concludes the question-and-answer session of today's
conference. I will turn the call back to management for closing
remarks.
Peter
Dworkin - Applied Biosystems
Inc. - VP of IR and Corporate Communications
This
is Peter Dworkin. Thank you for participating in the call today. As we have
heard, there is a historic quality to today's call, because we do expect it is
the last one before the merger with Invitrogen is completed. As we stated
earlier today, our current expectation is that the merger would be completed in
mid-November following the shareholder approval, and the remaining regulatory
approval in the EU.
We
will keep posting management's remarks within the hour on our website, and the
audio replay will be available later today using the phone numbers listed in
today's press releases. Thanks for joining us today.
Thank
you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a great
day.
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